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In search of a better name for Markup

Many people have commented that “Markup” is a bad name for a project, mainly because it's very difficult to search for using Google et al. Note especially that there is another Python project for generating HTML called markup at  http://markup.sourceforge.net/

This page should serve to collect the various name suggestions.

Please note that there are several aspects to the project name:

  • The project name as used in the logo, website and when referring to the project in general.
  • The name of the python package.
  • The names of distributed files and the distutils/setuptools project name (as used for PyPI and Python eggs).

Both package names and file names impose constraints on the set of potential candidates for a renaming: for example, neither support non-alphanumeric characters, or at least not in a portable manner.


Suggested by Christian Boos  here:

pyMarkup? Pretty standard for a Python library to have a "py" prefix, and you don't really give up the Markup name. Also, would be pretty straightforward to top google results for it (54 hits so far...).


I'm not a fan of such prefixed names (WinFoo, KFoo, GFoo, iFoo, etc). IMHO those fall in the "cheesy" category ;-) Exceptions are bindings or Python versions of some product, but otherwise I think it's rather ugly.
-  Christopher Lenz

Yes, pySomething usually stands for the Python bindings for that Something. In the context of Markup, it was more meant to be reminiscent of the py: prefix we use everywhere in our templates. So maybe... py:markup? Additionally, this goes well with the encapsulation in <...> illustrated in the logo.
- cboos

See the comment I added at the top of the page about constraints on the project name. I actually like py:markup, but don't see how that would work as a name.
- cmlenz

Ok, then I stand for pymarkup for the project name and the package name; only the logo would be slightly different (<py:markup!> but see below for a nicer rendering). Note that this slight difference already exists for the current logo/name (<markup/> vs. Markup).
- cboos


See  this post by  Matt Good to the mailing list:

In relation to the "Goat" suggestion Chris mentioned on IRC "Markhor" which is a type of goat. Incidentally the name comes from the Persian word for "snake eater", so it has a sort-of tie-in to Python. Though as Christian later that O'Reilly is using wild goats on its covers for Ruby on Rails-related books:  http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/rubyrails/

In this context, “Goat” was proposed on the thread by Ethan Fremen (“what happens to a kid when it grows up :)“.)

Well, I was actually refering to  Ruby in a Nutshell, but it appears it's the same goat ;)... -- Christian


"upmark" - Suggested by David Fraser


Suggested by  Talin via email:

On the naming issue, I have a suggestion: "Papyrus". Now - one would think that there must already be a Python project with that name, it's so bleeding obvious - but a Google search for "python papyrus" turns up nothing relevant. So my suggestion is - grab the name while you can :)

... except for the fact that this name is not already used, what would be the connection?
- cboos


While not totally descriptive for this very template system, I like the original name.

With "Papyrus", the office software instantly crossed my mind. It is also not a unique name, and although searching together with the python keyword (as Talin did) would work, it may not work in every case.

Note that I wrote "marrrkup" with three "r" to avoid finding typos on search engines. No hits on Google so far.

Suggested by Jochen Kupperschmidt

I like the current logo, however I thought about a small twist that would make it look even better: use a "!" instead of "/". That makes it more "dynamic".

HTML prototype: <markup!>

The "!" could even be interpreted as: "yeah, the name is markup! despite all what people are saying about its googlability and other neologisms..." ;)

HTML prototype for py:markup: <py:markup!>